EP: 006 | How To Reach Your Struggling Child | Andre Norman

What do you do when the child you love starts shutting down, drifting away, or using dangerous escapes to numb their pain—and you don’t know how to reach them?


In this episode of The Bad Mom Podcast, I sat down with Andre Norman—once a gang leader serving multiple prison sentences, now known as The Ambassador of Hope and a Harvard fellow.


Andre’s story is breathtaking: from a violent childhood and maximum security prison to becoming one of the most sought-after mentors for parents and kids across the country. His journey proves that no one is beyond hope.


But what I love most is how he helps us as parents listen differently—to hear

🌱 Key Takeaways

  • Listening Without Judgment: Our kids don’t always need solutions; they need us to hear them fully and validate their feelings.

  • Independence as Identity: That pair of “ugly sneakers” or wild choices might just be your child’s first steps toward independence—don’t squash it.

  • Shame in Suburbia: Trauma and addiction don’t only happen “out there.” Suburban kids are suffering too, but stigma keeps families from seeking help.

  • Find Their Trusted Voice: Every child has someone they’ll listen to—if it isn’t you, identify and partner with that voice.

  • Prevention Over Crisis: Don’t wait until your child is in full-blown trauma to bring in help. Early mentors and safe spaces matter.

Time Stamps

  • [00:00:00] Vivian introduces Andre Norman and shares how he has supported her own family through moments of crisis.

  • [00:02:00] Andre reflects on parenting, independence, and the moment his son’s sneaker choice became a lesson in letting kids form their own identity.

  • [00:06:00] Andre shares his early childhood—domestic violence at home, racism during Boston’s busing crisis, and learning to survive poverty.

  • [00:11:00] The heartbreaking moment he gave up his trumpet and purpose to follow the crowd—leading to prison sentences by age 18.

  • [00:14:00] Solitary confinement epiphany: realizing he was “the king of nowhere,” and daring to dream of Harvard as a way out.

  • [00:17:00] What suburban parents miss: addiction, self-harm, and mental health crises are just as real behind picket fences.

  • [00:21:00] Why shame keeps parents silent—and why reaching outside your community for help can break the cycle.

  • [00:26:00] The story of a young woman trapped in fentanyl addiction who found healing when Andre flipped her role from patient to teacher.

  • [00:29:00] Vivian and Andre reflect on the healing power of service and contribution—for kids and parents alike.

  • [00:32:00] The “$25 speaker” story—how small moments can rupture parent-child trust, and why listening matters more than logic.

  • [00:36:00] Andre’s #1 advice: don’t wait for a crisis. Proactively build mentors, retreats, and safe spaces into your child’s world now.

  • [00:39:00] The importance of finding the voice your child listens to—and how to partner with it for their growth.

Y✨ Resources & Next Steps

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